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I am going to be starting a new Q and A series based on some of the emails I get throughout the week. I receive a lot of good questions through email and thought this would be a good way to share some of that information. Names and email address will be left out to protect the innocent!

Q. I ordered a remote for my 02 tundra,and it came w/programming instructions but they do not work. I must have gotten the wrong instructions. Please send me the right inst. for my tundra. Thanks

A. You might try contacting the seller and let them know you are having problems with the procedure they gave you. I think the 02 Tundra could have two possible RKE systems, dealer installed or factory installed. If the remote they sent you looks like your original factory remote then don’t worry. If the remote they sent you looks different then you may have the wrong remote.

In any case, these are the procedures:

This is the procedure for the factory installed system:

1. Start with the key out of the ignition. Open the driver door (all other doors are closed). Driver door is unlocked (other doors don’t matter)

2. Perform these steps within 5 seconds
a. Insert the key into the ignition (don’t turn it) Pull key out
b. Insert the key into the ignition (don’t turn it) Pull key out

3. Perform these steps within 40 seconds
a. Close, then open the drivers door.
b. Close, then open the drivers door.
c. Insert the key into the ignition (don’t turn it) and pull it out

4. Perform these steps within 40 seconds
a. Close, then open the drivers door.
b. Close, then open the drivers door.
c. Insert the key into the ignition and leave in the ignition.
d. Close the drivers door
Turn the ignition to ON (as far as you can go without cranking the engine), then  back to off .
e. Remove the key from the ignition.

5. Within 3 seconds, the power door locks should lock then unlock automatically indicating successful entry into programming mode. Return to step 1 if the locks do not cycle at this point

6. Perform these steps within 40 seconds
a. Press the lock and unlock buttons on the transmitter simultaneously for 1.5 seconds
b. Immediately after letting go of the lock and unlock buttons, press the lock button by itself and hold for 2 seconds. Within 3 seconds, the door locks should lock then unlock once indicating successful programming. If the door locks cycle twice, repeat steps 6a and 6b as the remote was not accepted.

7. Open drivers door

This is the procedure for the dealer installed system:

Programming a remote for the 2002 Tundra (SR5 Access Cab) RS3000 System…

1. Locate the ECU next to steering column and above the air duct for the feet. ECU is NOT attached to firewall. It’s a grey box about 4″ by 4″ by 1.5″. It has a little green button on the side which is the reset button.

2. Turn key to ‘ON’ position.

3. Press green reset button on ECU for 3 seconds.

4. Within 5 seconds after releasing reset button on ECU, press and release the button on your remote you want programmed. System should ‘chirp’ if programmed correctly.

5. Turn key to ‘LOCK’ position and programming is finished.

To disable the passive arming (so it doesn’t set alarm automatically):

1. Turn key to ‘ON’.

2. Press and hold both remote buttons for 2+ seconds.

3. Press and release the top remote button twice.

4. Turn key to ‘LOCK’.

Hope that helped.

 


 

Q. ok i have a jeep grand cherokee laredo 1993 i would like to know how much a 2 button fob and programming instructions will cost me . many thanks

A. I ran a search for you, it looks like you can get one for 49.00 + shipping. This is not a factory part by Chrysler but it is compatible with your factory system. The programming should be included with your purchase.

Check here

Hope that helps.

 


 

Q. Unfortunately I’m one of the ones as referred to in your FAQ’S. I dropped my remote and everything came apart. So now I’m looking for another one. Here are my specs, can you help? IC: 3521a T04B P/N: 56038751AE FCC: KOBDT04A

A. Sure, I’d love to help! Even though your remote is broken, if the electronics are still good and the remote is working I would recommend replacing the housing.

If the electronics are broken, ie: the battery terminal has came loose or it otherwise is no longer working I would recommend replacing the entire unit.

Unfortunately I’m still in the process of building out the vehicle categories on my site and a lot of vehicles (including Durango) are missing from the Navigation Menu. If you were unable to locate it there I apologize for the inconvenience.

I do thank you for contacting me and allowing me the chance to help you.

 


 

Q. Hello there, I live in Australia and have just purchased a 2003 Chrysler Grand Voyager which I think may be the same or similar to the Chrysler Town & Country in the USA. The car came with 2 remotes, one works the other doesn’t, even after replacing the batteries. The local dealer says I need a new one but has quoted me $180 (about $150 US) for a new one. I see one that looks very similar for sale on you Chrysler section, but has a panic button. Mine doesn’t have a panic button, just lock & unlock. Do you know if these remotes will work in Australia or would they use different frequencies? Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

A. I do believe they operate on different frequencies in Australia. There does appear to be some sellers on ebay.com.au offering keyless remotes, you might check with them and see if they can provide further assistance.

 


 

Q. I searched your site and did not notice any information on how to program a Key Fob for a Pontiac Grand Prix 2007. Does this information come with a purchase? If that is so I am not objected to purchasing one from your site; I need one regardless. Please let me know so I can move forward with what needs done as I am only down to 1 key and 1 fob.

A. You can shop for one through my site if you’d like but you will need to get a dealer or locksmith to program the remote for you. A scan tool is needed to program that remote.

 


 

Q. How can I discern whether my “fob” is broken OR it’s the receiver in the car? I replaced the battery in the fob,after noticing I had to stand next to the car to get the doors to unlock, the new battery lasted for about a day then ALL functions ceased.

A. I suspect the remote is bad since it was only working from short distances and eating batteries, those symptoms usually indicate a bad remote. The only way you can know for sure is to try it with another known working remote. (beyond taking it to the dealer)

If you don’t have another remote, some auto parts stores have equipment that can test the remote for you for free, you might call around and ask a few. If you have Autozone in your area try them first.

Q.Thanks for your reply. As you suggested I went to AutoZone and found their tester. There are two test lights one says “RF” (radio frequency?) and “IF” (infra-red frequency?). All the buttons on my fob lit up the “RF” test.

However,according to the clerk the tester was only testing my battery and not that my fob was actually working?

Could this be true? The idea that the fob would produce “some type” of RF that can be detected but NOT neccessarily the correct frequency to activate MY cars’ system?

I need to satisfy myself that the problem IS the fob and not the reciever before I buy another fob.

Do you know of any other blogs that discuss RKE?

Thanks for your help

A. I do not know of any other blogs, sorry. The only way I know to for sure test this without taking it to the dealer is to try the vehicle with a known good working remote. I was in this business for a number of years and very rarely would there be anything wrong with the vehicle, 98% of the time it’s the remote that’s bad.

If you do purchase another remote and it turns out there’s an issue with your vehicle at least you can have them both programmed, so it’s not a total loss.

 


 

Q. Hi Mike I to am a locksmith with public works at the Naval Air station in {edit} and I’m trying to program a key for a 2008 GM Express van, don’t know if its even possible without a programmer, any advice would be appreciated.

A. If you have one key that is already programmed all you would do is cycle the first key OFF>>RUN, take it out and cycle the new key OFF>>RUN, wait for the security light to go out and it should be programmed.

If all keys are lost you can still program the key by cycling it OFF>>RUN wait 10 mins (leave it in the run position), repeat this step 2 more times for a total of 30 mins. After you cycle it for the last time the security light should go out.

 


 

Q. Please excuse a stupid question. I have a 2005 durango. Both fobs are stewed…You guys obviously have the best deal on them, but after I buy it from you do I just take the key anywhere to get it cut?

A. We don’t actually ship or sell the products directly, CheapFobs.com offers a comparison shopping service to help you get the best deal possible. In regard to having the keys cut,  If your Durango is equipped with transponder keys they will need to be cut/programmed by a dealer or a locksmith.

When you turn the key to the run position if you see a little red (circular) light on the dash, that means it is equipped. If there is no light, any place should be able to cut the key for you.

Hope that helps.

 


 

Q. I am looking for 2001 ford mustang fob. This is what I have. A2881 3B: 2L3T-15K601-AB 4B:2S4T-15K601-AB Can you send me the link to the page and I will order from there. thanks

A. Try this

 


 

Q. How is a 2001 Buick LaSabre Limited Keyless Remote programed? Thank you for your kind assistance.

A. Give this a try >>

Important:

Before entering the programming mode, verify the possession of all the
transmitters you will be using on the vehicle. Once you program the
transmitter, the memory erases the other transmitters. You may program up to
4 transmitters

1) Turn OFF the ignition switch

2) Use a fused jumper (3 amp is sufficient) and connect terminal 8
(back/white wire) to terminal 4 (black wire)

3) Close all the doors

4) Turn ON the ignition switch
the doors will lock

5) Press and hold the following buttons on one of the transmitters for 30
seconds:
lock and unlock

6) After a 30 second delay, the doors will lock and unlock

Important:
DO NOT turn OFF the ignition . If the switch is turned OFF the first
transmitter becomes inoperative.

7) In order to program extra transmitters repeat Step 5

8.) Disconnect the fused jumper wire from the data link connector

9) Turn off ignition

10) Verify functions of all programmed transmitters.

 


 

Q. Hi, I recently bought a 99 Chevy Blazer and it does not have a remote control for entry. Could it orginally have had a remote? Is there a way to find out ? Please advise.

A. Yes you can try to put it into program mode, if it works then it is equipped. Chances are good if it has power windows and power locks.

Try this procedure  >>

* Press and hold the drivers side power UNLOCK button.
* Insert the key into the ignition, cycle it ON, OFF. (do not start the engine) Repeat this step two times. (3x total)
* Release the drivers side UNLOCK button.
* The power door locks should cycle to indicate program mode.
* Press and hold the LOCK and UNLOCK buttons on the fob to be programmed. The power door locks should cycle to indicate successful programming. (this may take up to 30 seconds)
* Repeat previous step for additional fobs.
* Turn the ignition ON to exit program mode.

Hope that helps

 


 

Well folks that wraps up the email Q and A for now. I’d like to thank everyone who contacted me with their questions, please do keep them coming. Don’t forget we also have a new discussion forum set up and you can ask your keyless questions there as well.

How to Know if a Remote Will Work For Your Vehicle

I see a lot of posts around the internet of people wondering which remotes will work for their vehicles. For example, can you use a remote from a different year model if it’s for the same vehicle? I am going to give you a near fool proof method for determining this.

On the back of every OEM remote will be an FCC id number such as “GQ43VT11T”. FCC numbers are issued by the government as proof that the device complies with their rules and regulations. If the remote in question has an identical FCC id number to your original, you can be 99% sure that it will work.
 

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Thieves Able to Easily Clone Keyless Fob Signals

As originally reported by a UK newspaper, thieves were able to use an electronic device to capture the keyless fob signal and then use it to easily open the doors of the their victims BMW. A hidden camera caught the crime on tape. I thought this part was especially interesting:

But when she called BMW, she was told the only solutions were to buy a new lock for £1,200 or have the key re-coded for £81.

“But what’s the point in doing that?” she said. “They’ll only come back and re-clone it again.

I would have to agree with this woman. There doesn’t seem to be any point in replacing the locks or recoding the keys when they can just as easily copy the new signals. These devices have actually been around for a number of years and it seems car manufacturers still have a ways to go when it comes to security.
 

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Walmart Now Carrying Transponder Keys

At a recent trip to Walmart I happened to stop by the automotive department and noticed that they are now carrying transponder keys. They didn’t appear to have a huge selection but I definitely saw Ford and Nissan keys which seemed to be priced at about $50 dollars. The keys they are using are clonable which means they will use a scanner to read the chip value of the original key, swap the keys and then write that value to the new key. A very simple procedure and much easier than using a scan tool.

This is a step in the right direction for retailers, especially since transponder keys have been on the market for over 10 years and it’s still such a pain to have them duplicated. Hopefully more companys will follow suit and it will continue to get easier to have transponder keys made. Not that I don’t recommend showing some love to your local Locksmith (I do) but not all Locksmith’s have this capability. If you are in need of a new key you might want to check this out since it’s much cheaper than going to the dealer, as I’m sure many of you already know!

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What You Should Know Before Purchasing A New Keyless Entry Remote

Purchasing a keyless entry remote on eBay is a great way to save some money but there are a few things you should look out for before making your purchase, and some things you should know once you have received your new remote.

1. Verify that you will be able to program the remote yourself.

Most remotes are on board programmable but there are many that have to be programmed by a locksmith or a dealer. Double check the sellers description, most remotes that can be programmed by the customer will have it listed and usually, instructions will be provided at no extra charge. If you are unsure about this, contact the seller and double check with them before placing a bid.

Even if it turns out that you can’t program it yourself you can still save a great deal by skipping the dealer and purchasing online.

2. Check the feedback history of the seller.

Stick with sellers that have atleast a 97% feedback score or higher. If they do have negative feedback, read it and check for the sellers response to that feedback. Does it sound reasonable? Some buyers will leave a negative feedback even though it was not deserved. Reputable sellers will always list their shipping, handling and return polices up front, so check for that. I would also recommend doing a Google search on the sellers name, see what people are saying about him outside of eBay.

3. Make sure you order the correct remote for your vehicle.

Sounds silly but a lot of remotes made by the same manufacturer look similar but have completely different part numbers and if you get the wrong one, it might not work. The key here is not to order a remote based on looks alone. Make sure the auction states that it will work with your exact vehicle year make and model. Again, contact the seller if you are unsure about this.

4. Be patient while performing the program procedure. (on board program)

Some programming procedures have many steps and it may not work on your first, second or even third try. The best advice I can give for programming is to take it slow and one step at a time. Do not try to memorize the entire procedure all at once. Print it out and take it with you, read a step, perform it, continue to the second step and repeat until all the steps are completed.

5. Shop around for dealer programming. (dealer program)

Surprisingly, dealer pricing for this service can vary wildly. I’ve seen it range anywhere from free all the way up to $150.00. Do not accept a high price quote from a dealer looking to make a fast dollar, call around to different dealerships for the best price.

$25.00 – $50.00 is a reasonable price point.

Hopefully these tips will help you to make an informed purchase and help you save some money as well. As always, feel free to contact me here on the blog or by email with any keyless related questions or comments.

I am always glad to help.

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